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Margaret Thatcher dies of stroke aged 87
Baroness Thatcher, Britain’s greatest post-war prime minister, has died at the age of 87 after suffering a stroke, her family has announced.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9978831/Margaret-Thatcher-dies-of-stroke-aged-87.html
This is a sad day for those of us who were raising families in the ’70s, continually struggling against the tide of Union control of the Government. At last there was someone who faced these communists down and gave us back our nation.
Needless to say, the vitriol emanating from the hard left will cause fair-minded people to hang their heads in shame when they see how debate in this nation has been allowed to fall to these depths.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 8, 2013, 1:47 pmNoticeable that every last blog concerning this on the DT has had its comments closed.
Isn’t it curious how the Left, for all their posturing, are far and away the biggest vile bunch of scum going, and infinitely hypocritical to boot?
Posted by catweazle666 | April 8, 2013, 2:45 pmI agree, it’s a sad reflection on the current state of affairs. The left pose as owning the moral high ground but, beyond some neatly turned marketing phrases, their true face is shown at the least provocation. As a working-class bloke, from a long line of working-class folk, I lost any respect for the left a long time ago.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 8, 2013, 3:14 pmAs I posted on JD’s:
I didn’t have much time for her, to say the least. The sign of a great leader, is the ability to delegate. She surrounded herself with idiots, which is the only verdict that matters.
As an insight, Douglas Hurd came out of a meeting, when Home Secretary, and said to the press outside, that criminal fraud under £10 million in value would no longer be investigated.
That he wasn’t IMMEDIATELY fired for that, to me, says all that needs saying about Margaret Thatcher.
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To add to that, Ronald Reagan had an uncanny eye for talent, and knew where it could serve best. He was one of the greatest.
Posted by Rastech | April 8, 2013, 2:52 pmHow sad that so many comments on Lady Thatcher’s death have been closed, but I can well imagine why.
So much hate and vitriol: why can’t people see the good?
She took over a Britain, the ‘sick Man of Europe” and made this country respected on the world stage again.
She was’t perfect I am sure, but she was infinitely better than the politicians currently inhabiting Westminster. .
Posted by okiedokey | April 8, 2013, 3:44 pmShe was great. Not a great something sje was great in herself. Words that come to mind for me with Margaret Thatcher are conviction, backbone, common sense, strength. She drove and still drives lefties crazy because she was right and didn’t really care what they thought of her. They howled, still do, but she just soldiered on. Great.
Posted by Casey Johannesson | April 8, 2013, 4:13 pm[Snip. . . Off topic I’m afraid, Alfred].
Alfred
Posted by Alfred Alexander | April 8, 2013, 4:17 pmShe was a great lady. She did much for not only the UK, but the world. My best wishes to those who mourn her loss.
Posted by suyts | April 8, 2013, 4:31 pmThanks, suyts.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 8, 2013, 4:43 pmMargaret Thatcher was very proud to be British and she wanted Britain to be great again. She was a true leader grounded in the UK. You cannot say that for Cameron. He is just so much political flotsam.
Posted by elselskin | April 8, 2013, 10:58 pmI mentioned earlier that I doubted he would have been given even a Junior Minister’s job in a Thatcher cabinet. Who knows though, politics is a funny business.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 8, 2013, 11:08 pmHe is glister, she was gold. I wish the people could tell the difference before they vote.
Posted by elselskin | April 8, 2013, 11:19 pmHe’s a ‘conviction’ politician. He deserves the same conviction Huhne got, methinks.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 8, 2013, 11:44 pmHere’s some ghastly little Left-wing oik on the Independent that didn’t have to live through the 1960s and 1970s when the Communist inspired and funded trade unions – aided and abetted by KGB stooges at the heart of government – were busy destroying the country from the bottom up.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/owen-jones-thatcherism-was-a-national-catastrophe-that-still-poisons-us-8564858.html
I remember driving through Manchester one night on a motorbike during one of the power cuts, no lights anywhere including traffic lights, not a single pedestrian, nothing moving on the road except me. Positively apocalyptic, really quite scary, just me in city the size of Manchester, that really brought it home.
Margaret thatcher rescued from that, and built the country back up again. Pity the EUSSR supporting traitors stabbed her in the back.
We’ve got a bloody long way to go to reach a state like that again, no matter what the vile ‘liberal” Left has to say about the current economic problems.
The ‘Liberal” Left will never forgive Thatcher, Regan and Pope John Paul for destroying their plan to hand Western civilisation over to the Evil Empire on a plate.
RIP.
PS Isn’t it funny how all these Left-wing tossers whining about her destruction of Crazy Arthur and the (ig)noble miners’ unions never have a single word to say about the depredations visited on the mining industry, especially in the North of England by Comrade Viscount Anthony (Call me ‘Tony’) Wedgewood Benn Bart (another KGB motivated Fellow Traveller, as it turns out), who closed more pits and put more miners out of work – with little or no compensation – than ever MT did.
But hey, “That’s Different”, right?
Posted by catweazle666 | April 9, 2013, 12:35 amI’m off to bed but I will say that if he’s the future then God help us all. Another Dobbs wannabe who wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the real world and it’s only crap newspapers such as the Independent (another leftie oxymoron) that give him a voice. Snot-nosed little brat!
Posted by grumpydenier | April 9, 2013, 12:53 amI am still learning about UK politics and who is who but the communist influence was everywhere. We had a PM who had Fidel Castro as an honorary pall bearer at his funeral. Was I proud? NOT!!!
Posted by elselskin | April 9, 2013, 12:55 amComment by Farmerbraun
https://grumpydenier.wordpress.com/politics-slot/australasian-politics/#comment-91
Posted by grumpydenier | April 9, 2013, 8:47 amMere words seem inadequate when describing greats such as her and Ronald Reagan. I feel fortunate to have lived during their tenure.
They may have “saved” their countries, or merely put off the eventual demise a few years. But at least we all benefited from their service.
Posted by philjourdan | April 9, 2013, 2:08 pmFarmerbraun identifies the fact that Maggie merely postponed the inexorable demise.
I saw the writing on the wall and I wasn’t very happy in Maggie’s UK and so I got out in 1991.
There’s a lot I can criticise about her tenure. But I never doubted her integrity, her devotion to the job and her sound conversvative values. The fact that Britain’s deterioration accelerated rapidly under Major just goes to further underline that she was fighting a losing battle with a cabinet full of traitors. Under those circumstances, it is difficult to guage her true value.
Since 1964 all the Prime Ministers have been stooges for a foreign power, Maggie excluded.
Posted by ClimateFraudWatcher (@climatefraud) | April 9, 2013, 3:33 pmMining Coal Is Good, But Burning Coal Is Bad? Struggling To Understand The Left
http://papundits.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/mining-coal-is-good-but-burning-coal-is-bad-struggling-to-understand-the-left/
Indeed, the people who complain most bitterly about the pit closures are generally those who are most against burning coal.
I’m afraid, Daniel, this is just another example of socialism’s selective blindness. Much the same argument can be levelled at the bien-pensants who ignore the environmental destruction wreaked on China to supply the rare-earth components for wind turbines. Or the absolute stupidity of converting Drax from one of the most efficient coal-burning power stations to bio-mass in order to reduce CO2 emissions. Even a limited understanding of the carbon cycle shows what an futile gesture this is.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 18, 2013, 11:46 amTime to shoot the husky, Dave
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100212713/time-to-shoot-the-husky-dave/
There is so much good news about the collapse of the EU’s carbon trading scam, that I’m not sure where to begin. But let’s start with the fact that it has really, really annoyed Bryony Worthington – the activist from the hard-left anti-capitalist pressure group Friends of the Earth who wrote the most economically suicidal piece of legislation in British history, the Climate Change Act. Even more delightfully, it will also have upset Tim “Trougher” Yeo and Lord “King Trougher” Deben, both of whom were not only fully behind this latest planned EU conspiracy against the energy user and the taxpayer but who also had the sublime gall to suggest that this market rigging is what Margaret Thatcher would have wanted.(H/T Benny Peiser, GWPF)
Posted by grumpydenier | April 18, 2013, 12:39 pmThe Scots are revolting . . .
In a nice way, I mean.
http://www.alliancepartyscotland.org.uk/
The Alliance Party of Scotland has had enough of posturing and false promises by other parties about the urgent problems facing the nation. We demand genuine public consultation procedures, respect for Scotland’s outstanding natural heritage, and real solutions to fuel poverty, joblessness, and sub-standard housing.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 18, 2013, 7:22 pmLilley sticks it to ‘Trougher’ Yeo
Not everything in the Tory party is rotten and irredeemable. There was good old Owen Paterson in the papers yesterday with his squirrel traps. There’s Gove, sticking it to the eco-loons by removing global warming junk science teaching from the curriculum. And then there’s this utterly magnificent performance by Peter Lilley in a climate change debate at Westminster Hall last week, up against two of his more bubonic colleagues Tim “Trougher” Yeo and Greg “so utterly crap he doesn’t even merit a nickname” Barker. Lilley was participating in his new role as a member of the Climate Change Committee, which he was able to infiltrate by means of a secret ballot. I recommend you read the full Hansard transcript. It is, as they say, *popcorn*.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100213192/lilley-sticks-it-to-trougher-yeo/
Posted by grumpydenier | April 22, 2013, 4:03 pmNigel Farage: UKIP is bringing the local people back to politics
Next week’s election should show that the main parties are failing to engage with the electorate
Posted by grumpydenier | April 25, 2013, 10:43 amDemocracy? Don’t make me laugh! With millions set to vote in next week’s local elections, one battle-scarred veteran councillor delivers a devastating insight into what really goes on in your Town Hall
Exactly one year ago, after three recounts, I was swept back into power as a local district councillor by a massive two votes. Despite an astonishingly vitriolic campaign against me, I unseated a Liberal Democrat — and life as a district councillor began again.
Posted by grumpydenier | April 27, 2013, 12:54 pmExtended interview with UKIP’s Nigel Farage
There’s a wave of Euroscepticism creeping around Europe but no more strongly than in the UK.
David Cameron once called UK Independent Party, UKIP a bunch of fruit cakes, loonies and closet racists…
But a recent poll puts this ‘extreme’ support base at 17% of Brits, ranking UKIP third after the Tory and Labour parties and ahead of the Lib Dems with only 8%.
UKIP’s colourful leader Nigel Farage talks to The Business
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-29/extended-interview-with-ukips-nigel-farage/4658314?section=business
Posted by grumpydenier | April 29, 2013, 7:11 pm
Posted by grumpydenier | October 11, 2013, 4:40 pmWytheshawe: These are the facts;
A total of 10,141 postal votes were cast and only 13,883 on the day
Labour’s candidate, Michael Kane, retained the seat with 13,261 votes on a low turnout of 28.24%.
UKIP came second with 4,301 votes
Knowing how Labour excel at manipulating postal votes it would be safe to assume that UKIP picked >40% of the non-postal votes.
Posted by grumpydenier | February 14, 2014, 11:04 am“A total of 10,141 postal votes were cast and only 13,883 on the day”
Indicative.
There was a report on R4 news this lunchtime of an inquiry into vote fraud involving a Southern Labour council.
Looks like yet another of the benefits of “enrichment” to me.
Posted by catweazle666 | February 14, 2014, 1:48 pm